HMS Moronic, Trident Failures & The West Coast of Scotland

Published  10th Sept 2016  |  Last Updated 28th Feb 2017
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Feb 28th 2017


The Isle of Skye is the largest and most northerly major island in the Inner Hebrides of Scotland.[Note 1] The island’s peninsulas radiate from a mountainous centre dominated by the Cuillins, the rocky slopes of which provide some of the most dramatic mountain scenery in the country.[9][10]  Population – 10,008 [6]  

Skye =  639 square miles  (1,656 km2) [2]


1.   HMS ASTUTE 22nd Oct 2010

HMS Astute is an operational nuclear-powered submarine in the Royal Navy, the lead ship of her class. Astute is the second submarine of the Royal Navy to be named after the characteristic of shrewdness and discernment—the first was the World War II-era Amphion-class Astute. She was the largest attack submarine in Royal Navy history when commissioned.

Aground on Skye Service Inquiry and statement from the Head of Submarine Service into the grounding of HMS Astute which occurred off the Isle of Skye on October 22nd 2010.      Ministry of Defence | Service Inquiry report | Submarine Service Statement

2.   HMS Hapless: submarine in crash No2 with tug  Nov 4th 2010

EXTRACT: An investigation was already being held into the grounding of HMS Astute on a shingle bank off Skye last month after the 1 billion vessel, whose key attribute is stealth, was turned into a tourist attraction. Now a new inquiry is underway after it was revealed that having survived the incident relatively unscathed, the submarine was damaged in a collision with the tug boat hired to free it. The Anglian Prince was contracted by the navy to help pull the sub to safety. But during the operation the towing rope became caught in the tug’s propeller and pulled the vessels together, damaging the Astute’s starboard foreplane.

3.  2011 fatal shooting

On 8 April 2011, one naval officer was killed and another injured in a shooting on board Astute while berthed at Southampton docks. Southampton City Council‘s leader, chief executive, and mayor were on board at the time. During a changeover of armed guards, 22-year old Able Seaman Ryan Donovan opened fire with an SA80 assault rifle in the submarine’s control room, hitting two officers, before being overpowered by Southampton Council’s leader, Royston Smith, a former RAF flight engineer, and chief executive Alistair Neill.[29][30]  In the 48 hours before going on a guard duty, Donovan had drunk 20 pints of cider and lager, and spirits, leaving him well beyond the drink-drive limit when on duty. Heavy drinking before duties was common practice amongst the crew.[31][32]

According to Smith: “We were in the control room when someone entered and there was an exchange of words. He [the gunman] stepped out with another man and two shots were fired and then he entered the control room again and began shooting again… He had a magazine with 30 rounds in it so I took the view that someone had to stop him. I pushed him against the wall and we wrestled, then I pushed him into another wall which resulted in him going to the ground and I managed to get the weapon from him and threw it aside under a table. I shouted for someone to help as I held him down and my chief executive was the first to come, and he did a remarkable job of restraining him.” — Royston Smith, BBC interview[33]

The gunman was later arrested by Hampshire Constabulary officers.[34][35] The dead officer was named as Lieutenant Commander Ian Molyneux, Astutes weapons engineering officer.[36] Donovan was charged with the murder of Molyneux and the attempted murder of Petty Officer Christopher Brown, Chief Petty Officer David McCoy, and Lieutenant Commander Christopher Hodge.[37]

On 19 September 2011, at the Crown Court at Winchester, Donovan admitted the murder of Lieutenant Commander Molyneux and three counts of attempted murder. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and must serve a minimum of 25 years.[38] On 23 March 2012, Ian Molyneux, Royston Smith and Alistair Neill were awarded the George Medal for gallantry.[39][40][41]

HMS Astute: Nuclear submarine guard kills officer in rifle rampage



In July 1996, Trafalgar grounded near the Isle of Skye in Scotland.[6]

In Nov 2002, Trafalgar again ran aground close to the Isle of Skye, causing £5 million worth of damage to her hull and injuring three sailors. She was travelling 50 metres below the surface at more than 14 knots when Lieutenant-Commander Tim Green, a student in the “Perisher” course for new submarine commanders, ordered a course change that took her onto the rocks at Fladda-chuain – Eilean Trodday  a small but well-charted islet. Commander Robert Fancy, responsible for navigation, and Commander Ian McGhie, an instructor, both pleaded guilty at court-martial to contributing to the accident. On 9 March 2004 the court reprimanded both for negligence. Green was not prosecuted, but received an administrative censure.[7]In May 2008 it was reported that the crash was caused by the chart being used in the exercise being covered with tracing paper, to prevent students marking it.[8]Fladda-chùain is the subject of some legends. There are the ruins of a chapel here, said to have been founded by one “O’ Gorgon” in the days of St. Columba,[2] and/or dedicated to him.[4] It is said also that MacDonald of the Isles hid his deeds here prior to the Jacobite rising of 1715.[2]


Submarine crew blamed for sinking of Antares 09/07/92

EXTRACT: The crew of the trawler Antares died on 22 November 1990 when the Trafalgar class submarine snagged its nets in the Bute Sound, north of Arran. Trenchant had been engaged in a submarine command exercise, known as a ‘perishers’ course.

7.  HMS SPARTAN  Oct 1989

The Swiftsure-class submarine ran aground off the west coast of Scotland. She was refloated, repaired, and returned to service.  source


8.  Collision with a Russian submarine

Sceptre has suffered several severe accidents in her career. On 23 May 1981 she collided with a Russian submarine (K211) and her reactor’s protection systems would have performed an automatic emergency shutdown (scrammed the reactor), but her captain ordered the safety mechanisms overridden (battleshort enabled). The crew were told to say that they had hit an iceberg. Much of Sceptres forward outer casing was torn away; there was damage to the fin with the bridge no longer there; and the propeller of the Russian boat had cut into the pressure hull. This incident was disclosed when David Forghan, Sceptres former weapons officer, gave a television interview which was broadcast on 19 September 1991. The Soviet submarine collided with was K-211 of the Delta-III class, which on 23 May 1981 collided with an unknown submarine, identified at the time as an unknown Sturgeon-class American submarine.[5][6]

9.  1987 refit

In 1987 Sceptre was fitted with an improved reactor core (Core Z). In March 1990, there was a coolant leak while Sceptre was at Devonport. On 20 October 1991, there was a fire onboard while the boat was moored at Faslane. In August 1995 Sceptre was forced to abort her patrol and return to Faslane after suffering, in the words of the Ministry of Defence, “an unspecified fault in the propulsion system.” A defect in Sceptres reactor was discovered in 1998, though its seriousness was not appreciated until after the investigation of another serious accident.[citation needed

10.  Scotia incident (1989)

In November 2010, it was reported in Hansard that Sceptre had snagged the nets of the fishing vessel Scotia in November 1989.[7]

11.  Propulsion trial accident (2000)

On 6 March 2000 Sceptre suffered a serious accident while inside a drydock at the Rosyth yards while undergoing trials towards the end of a major refit. The test involved flooding the drydock, and running the main engines slowly with steam supplied from the shore. However, too much steam was used and the engines went to full speed. Sceptre broke her moorings and shot forward off the cradle she rested on. The steam line ruptured, scaffolding buckled, a crane was pushed forward some 15 feet, and the submarine moved forward some 30 feet inside the dock.[citation needed]

12.  HMS REPULSE July 1996 – Grounded North Channel

13.  HMS Victorious (S29) Nov 2000 – Grounded Firth of Clyde

14.  HMS Triumph (N18) Nov 2000 – Grounded off west coast of Scotland

15.  Trawler ‘may have snagged submarine’  21 March 2015 

“A skipper has claimed a submarine may have snagged itself on his trawler as it fished off the Outer Hebrides. Angus Macleod said he and his four crew were “extremely lucky” after his net was continually dragged in front of his 62ft boat. The Royal Navy has said there were no British or Nato submarines in the area at the time. There has been speculation in recent months that Russian subs have been operating off the Scottish coast. Mr Macleod’s wooden Aquarius boat was fishing for haddock, monkfish and skate about 10 miles east of the Butt of Lewis in 360ft of water on Tuesday evening.”

MoD asks for American help in searching for Russian


On the night between 3–4 February 2009, the two submarines collided in the Atlantic Ocean.[5] On 6 February 2009, the French Ministry of Defence reported that Triomphant “collided with an immersed object (probably a container)”[1][6] The UK Ministry of Defence initially would not comment that the incident took place.[5] On 16 February 2009, the incident was confirmed[1] by First Sea Lord Sir Jonathon Band, in response to a question at an unrelated event. Band said that the collision occurred at low speed, and that there had been no injuries.[1] The French Ministry of Defence also stated that a collision “at a very low speed” had occurred, with no casualties.[7]

HMS Vanguard and Le Triomphant submarine collision

Cuts warning as nuclear submarine crash rate nears one a year  nov 6th 2010   

Nuclear submarines have crashed almost every year for the past two decades, the Ministry of Defence has admitted.

“In both July 1996 and November 2000, two separate nuclear-powered submarines ran aground in the same month.

FASELANE WHISTLEBLOWER  – William McNeilly  Facebook | Wikispooks

17 page PDF Secret Nuclear Threat


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‘I’ve lost everything & the media made me out to be crazy and a traitor’


22 JAN 2017 

Failed Trident missile test

The Prime Minister is under pressure to reveal whether she knew about a failed test-firing of one of Britain’s Trident nuclear missiles before urging MPs to renew the system. A report in the Sunday Times said the unarmed missile had veered off course after launching in June last year. But in a Commons speech on Trident a few weeks later, Mrs May had failed to mention the incident.

 Dec 13, 1986

Failure Of First Submarine Test Launch Of Trident II-D5 (PEM-1)  

Trident II launch goes wrong


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